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# experience design

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31:07The MARVELS framework for experience designPatrick Fagan: Oh gosh. That's a good question though. That could be a whole new kind of industry. I guess I can kind of think through this out loud. I mean, one thing I'm thinking is, don't necessarily have to work in tEP 227 · 28 Aug 2025·interview· 31:07–35:22

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