# fun
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4:53The math class analogy: finding fun in serious jobsJoel Zeff: You remember math class? And, uh, I hated math. I hated algebra. I hated geometry. But there's that kid right next to you who, when they solve an algebra problem, they've conquered the world. Do you remember tEP 225 · 21 Aug 2025·interview· 4:53–12:5617:23Making fun inclusiveAl Elliott: Yeah Joel Zeff: But, you know, I think people are genuinely good. That's, I, that's just my philosophy on life is that people are genuinely good and overall good. And, you know, you hopefully made the right hEP 225 · 21 Aug 2025·interview· 17:23–20:5232:43Introverts, extroverts, and finding your version of funJoel Zeff: That's a very good question. You know, I bring audience volunteers up on stage and my clients always ask, well, there's, you know, Bob from accounting. Bob's not going to get up on stage. I'm like, I don't wanEP 225 · 21 Aug 2025·intro· 32:43–35:5243:51Star Wars, peanut butter, and the perfect endingJohn Amaechi OBE: So you always start with A New Hope. I know it's the middle technically of the trilogy, but always start with A New Hope. And You'll meet R2-D2, this bloke here. You'll see lots of grownups waving arounEP 82 · 14 Mar 2024·interview· 43:51–47:3713:46Mastery activities — fun, challenging, joyfulAl Elliott: I don't get that Leanne Elliott: You know, these are examples of mastery activities. So they're fun, they're challenging, they bring us joy, they build our confidence, they help us feel like we've achieved soEP 70 · 21 Dec 2023·panel interview· 13:46–17:219:28The word "fun" — how often it came up in conversationAl Elliott: Over the hour that Chris and I talked, the recurring keyword that came up was fun. And in fact, I did a quick count and he used the word fun 17 times in the hour, whereas the word revenue he used 3 times. It EP 68 · 8 Dec 2023·interview· 9:28–11:4311:43The story behind the "We're Wistia" pageLeanne Elliott: Chris shared a great story that sums up this idea of fun and actually turned out to be one of the best things they ever did for growth Chris Savage: That page is actually a good, a good example of somethiEP 68 · 8 Dec 2023·interview· 11:43–15:147:23Champagne toast (and the espresso cups)Leanne Elliott: I do. Did someone say bubbles? Al Elliott: So we have this lovely bottle of champagne from our lovely friends, uh, Andrew and Fanny over at Carbon Poditive, um, which, uh, we were one of the very first peEP 52 · 17 Aug 2023·other· 7:23–9:17
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