# practical application
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20:51What leading with love really looks like in practiceMartha Lawrence: No, no, no, no. No, it's just about being present to people. And there are moments when leading with love looks like being forthright with someone, telling them if they are not performing in the way thatEP 291 · 9 Apr 2026·interview· 20:51–23:5331:16What Constellation Leadership looks like in practiceDanny Wareham: So, the way I set the book out is in kind of 3 sections, partly because I'm an idealist. I'm a bit of a John Lennon, can't we all get along? The world would be a better place. And I'm very aware of that. SEP 243 · 23 Oct 2025·interview· 31:16–34:52
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