# skeptics
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14:14Handling the skeptics and ego-driven leadersLeanne Elliott: We see a lot online, on the media about very different styles of leadership, very coercive styles of leadership, very masculine styles of leadership to, you know, pull up on Meta and Mark Zuckerberg's calEP 215 · 17 Jul 2025·interview· 14:14–21:1422:26For the skeptics: does fun actually pay?Al Elliott: Let me ask you a little bit about this concept of fun because your book is called Work Is Fun. And I have a sense that there was a particular point where you were like, do you know what? Fun is actually a busEP 181 · 20 Mar 2025·interview· 22:26–26:52
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