# systemic
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42:20Why resilience is never individualCait Donovan: Well, there's nothing— I want to go there for a second because there's no such thing as resilience that's not collective. When you Look at resilience research. One of the things that they found was there's EP 185 · 3 Apr 2025·interview· 42:20–44:3026:58Values as the glue between systemic and emotionalRob Kalwarowsky: If you want to connect the systemic and the emotional sides, values is the glue, because values at a deep level is how we operate, how we evaluate our time to be meaningful, just by definition, right? ItEP 30 · 15 Mar 2023·panel interview· 26:58–29:08
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