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26:15Team leads vs managers — and why leads aren't paid moreAl Elliott: You've mentioned 2 words there. You said team lead and you said manager. Are these the same people? James Hawkins: Yeah, pretty much now they are. And to start off with, it wasn't really the case, but yeah. SEP 189 · 17 Apr 2025·interview· 26:15–33:00

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