# structure
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4:21The 3 pillars: kindness, structure, and fairnessJeff LeBlanc: So the other 2 are structure and fairness. And that's really essentially where I found that, you know, what I was finding, and that's where I sort of draw the, draw the difference. If so to speak. And I wasEP 207 · 19 Jun 2025·interview· 4:21–6:2531:38How structure and fairness save kindness from itselfAl Elliott: Well, let's stick with that idea because if I wanted to be kind as a manager, Then I might say, oh, I'll take on this, this person's struggling a bit this week. So I'll do a bit of their work for them and surEP 207 · 19 Jun 2025·interview· 31:38–34:10
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